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1.  Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics

Traffic hasn’t been as depressing for quite some time. I just haven’t felt like updating the stats page. Revenue still sucks so much ass because the click-through rate on the wiki is down to 0.25%. Ad-blocking software and ads with little relevance are going to kill this site. It also doesn’t help that either the Algorithm periodically changes its mind about where to rank Crazymeds’ drug pages, sometimes removing them entirely from the search results, only to return them to where they used to be one to $SomeRandomNumber weeks later, or someone at Google is fucking with me. My money is still on the latter, especially since other things have been fucked with. I’ve been on Scientology’s shitlist for over 20 years, and there are plenty of pitiful sociopaths whose lives suck more than mine and have nothing better to do than try to make my life worse than theirs. Good luck with that, fat-assholes. I may be a loner who lives on the fringe of civilization, but at least I have children and other people who actually care about me. Nothing you do can change that.

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1.1  Traffic Jamming

Google Analytics’ numbers, which directly counts only those people with java enabled browsers - and estimates the numbers for those with java turned off - who visit wiki and forum-related pages. Feel free to sort this table by any column that appeals to you:

MonthVisitsDaily AvgUnique VisitorsDaily AvgPageviewsDaily AvgPages/VisitAvg StayAdSense AdsImpressions


If you look at the stats AwStats has been collecting, so you can see the actual number of people who visit this site, including those who do nothing more than grab PI sheets and other documents without looking at a single ad-rich page, and spammers who attempt to register 20 (or more) accounts on the forum, almost1 all of which are banned before a single validation e-mail is sent out. Since installing ReCAPTCHA spam registration is now next to nothing.

1.2  Smells Kinda Rank

Here’s Alexa’s take on our traffic and how it compares with other sites:

“Traffic rank” being where we stand among the however many active websites on the freaking Internet. The consensus of best guesses puts that at around half a billion (500,000,000). So if the number on the button is once again below 50,0002, that places us in the top 0.01% of sites as far as traffic is concerned. When I phrase it that way, the ~18K people a day Alexa managed to count at peak traffic last year seemed far more impressive than it was. If you check out the Alexa page for Crazymeds you can see where we rank for US sites - no idea how many of those there are - along with other traffic stats. Alexa is the closest thing to a standard for measuring traffic and other statistical information about websites. As long as you include their code and pay their monthly service fee.3 Their numbers are now lining up with Google’s.

Another indicator of relative popularity is something you normally need to have installed in your browser to see, the Google Page Rank:

The above is, fortunately, the Page Rank for the home page, and not this page. For those of you who give a rat’s ass about such things (i.e. you earn a living off of your website or pretend to know how to help people make money off teh InterGoogles) let Google explain how it works:

PageRank works by counting the number and quality of links to a page to determine a rough estimate of how important the website is. The underlying assumption is that more important websites are likely to receive more links from other websites.

If you want to see the complicated math behind it, see this Wikipedia page.

At the top and bottom of each page there are buttons to share or like it via Facebook, Google plus, and every other social media/bookmarking/whatever service there is via AddThis. It would really, really help if you flag every page you’ve found helpful and/or entertaining with a G+ and/or a Facebook share. I realize there is a hell of a lot of stigma attached to having brain cooties, and a share on Google+ and Facebook, unlike those in AA, is fairly public, whereas a like is much less so. Which is why I have both options available. If you don’t have, or don’t wish to use either one of those accounts, perhaps you can use another social bookmarking service. I cover the differences between share and like, and go into more detail about all the different services on the support page.

The most interesting way of looking at a site’s popularity that I’ve come across was Web Empires. They like visual and statistical metaphors and analogies, along the lines of, “If you lined up all the empty bottles of all the meds I’ve taken end to end they would reach…”4 So when they looked at Crazymeds they saw:

  • If Crazymeds.us were a country, we would have a population larger than British Virgin Islands’, and just a little shy of San Marino’s.
  • 1 in every 59,172 internet users visit Crazymeds.us daily
  • We’d be almost 50% larger than the largest Universal Life Church5 mass wedding.

Too bad they don’t do stuff like that any more. They’re just another boring stat machine like all the others.

1.3  Missing Links

I now have data about links from enough sources to go into more detail about them.

Trying to get an accurate count of the number of links in is akin to getting the average half-life of Lamictal, everyone has a different number and I don’t like any of them. Why the huge differences? My guesses:

  • Google does a “link:” search, which is utterly useless. I know there are far more than 39 freaking links. The same results are returned, give or take a few, for link:crazymeds.com, link:crazymeds.org, as well as for specific URLs.
  • I looks like Google Webmaster Tools (WT) and Treato, which is a healthcare forum aggregator, have rationalized how they count links. Treato has over 11k links, so they probably fixed a lot of duplicates, dropped links to topics that are old, etc.
  • Bing has its own WT, and it probably counts links in a similar way to Google’s.
  • I have no idea how SEOmoz and Majestic SEO go about determining links. My guess is the actual number of valid, hard links to Crazymeds is in the neighborhood of 50k.

2.  The People Like Us

Sites with sites supposedly like Crazymeds:

  • moreofit. moreofit uses tags to determine similarity. This has a lot of advantages and a few disadvantages. You do get a large number of really-to-not-so similar sites interspersed with entries that make it look a lot crappier than it really is. Such as the most similar site being crazymeds.org, numerous entries for Merck (although what little there is of the Merck Manual is certainly similar) and other members of Big Pharma.
    • The thing that annoys the living fuck out of me is they don’t define what they mean by “popularity.”

2: Popularity
The popularity of a website is, well, pretty much self explanatory[sic]. -- moreofit.com “About These Results” help box

  • No, it is not “self-explanatory.” What’s the scale? What’s the source? Absolute or relative? Just because absolute is more likely doesn’t mean that’s how you coded it.
  • Top Alternate. The grammar is a bit clunky and the selection isn’t as good as moreofit, but they have great idea of what “alternate” actually means, which makes it worth looking at. I can’t think of a more dissimilar site than the fear-mongers, but they are certainly an alternative to us on the subject of psychiatric chemotherapy. They are also one of very few sites that, when they indicate such a thing, noticed our content may not be appropriate for little kids! I love it when people pay attention. Plus you get to rate how alike or not a site is.

3.  Certifiably Crazy

In addition to our Health on the Net accreditation, Crazymeds meets a few other standards. It’s far easier to get high scores on these than not, but looking at these sites will show you we don’t have any computer cooties.

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4.  I am Just a Worthless Liar

Unless you own, or work for, a website, you may not be aware of sites that attempt to place monetary value on other people’s websites. They’re trying to make money through advertising, helping you sell your site, or selling their services as search engine optimization (SEO) wizards. The ones that are the most wrong usually fall into that last category, and claim to have all sorts of ideas as to how you can increase your revenue, visibility on search engines, etc. Accurate numbers for traffic are equally difficult when you don’t own the site or don’t have access to all the tools I have. I’m damn confident that 19–20 thousand people a day are looking at something, even if it’s only the paper about the messy, painful surgery required to take care of Viagra-induced priapism. Anyone getting their numbers from Compete (W3 Snoop, e.g.) or Quantcast is an idiot. Especially those using Compete to estimate traffic. When I had the Quantcast code installed it was picking up only about a third of the traffic Alexa was. Compete was even worse. I’d like to know where some of them get their data for how much I make from AdSense. A random number generator is my best guess.

So these sites are often hilarious examples of the adage “Garbage in, garbage out.” While some manage to get fairly accurate traffic and revenue data, that doesn’t always translate to anything close to what a website - especially when it’s yours - is worth. I’ve highlighted the truly egregious numbers in red, and emphasized the numbers that are close to accurate in bold. There are dozens more such sites. This should be enough to give you an idea of how little value website evaluators have. These numbers are subject to change, so are probably different if you look at them now6. I’ve throw together an HTML page just for their stupid widgets & badges. Not all of them update automagically. Especially not Check Website Price’s, which has the so-called value hardcoded in the fucking HTML. It takes real balls to double down on incompetence like that. Their guesstimate is utterly useless and nobody there can code worth shit, so they’re going stand by that worthless evaluation permenately! And they have the temerity to question the validity of a Google Page Rank of 5?

It makes me feel a little bit better, finding so many sites that suck so much, much more than I ever could.

Site EvaluatorUS$ ValueDaily VisitorsSourceUS$ Daily RevenueOther/CommentCred
Go Site Value226,080.0026,139Alexa?314.00DMOZ Domain Authority: 451
1Page Rank177,840.0020,579Alexa?247.00Crazymed.us domain registration expired. They got a lot more right than most other sites.2
Website Outlook67,612.60N/AAlexa?92.62Daily Pageviews: 30,2063
Website Looker39,974.0029,164Alexa?88.83Alexa Rank: 38,1354
ValueSite213,120.0024,636Alexa?296.00Daily Pageviews: 147,8165
Web$ite is Worth225,360.0026,097Alexa?313.00Daily Pageviews: 156,5826
WebStatLogr73,184.0014,138AlexaN/AYet they display the correct Alexa traffic graph.7
Site Price96,600.0011,000Random number generator33.00Facebook Likes: 3478
Webuka203,136.0010,834They asked the MatrixN/AMonthly Ad Revenue: $ 8,1259
Check Website Price64,511.003,992The slot machine on that annoying casino ad88.00Google Page Rank of 5 appears to be genuine”10
Website Value Calculator50,358.00N/AAlexa + incompetence70.00Daily Pageviews: 73,62311
Get Website Worth23,218.00N/AAlexa plus stupidity32.00Daily Pageviews: 10,63112
Your Website Value14,937.00N/AAlexa minus 3 yearsN/ADepth Potential7: Low13
4seohunt7,646.535,003Alexa plus extreme stupidity8.16.66They did notice our content is adults-only.14
RankQuote9,940.004,732Alexa minus understanding how Alexa works14.00Daily Pageviews: 10,78815
W3 Snoop3,795.002,385Compete10.00Google Page Rank: 0/1016
StuffGate77,028.00N/AN/AN/AWe have “the potential to earn $11,004″ a year17
Worth of Web9661,600.0043,458Compete’s stats are monthly10, not daily651.00WoW Rank: Captain1118
DigSiteValue12,9611,980Alexa plus lots of pot17.00Sites similar to Crazymeds: 11890.ie and AccuPOS19
URL Appraisal50.00N/ACompeteN/AUnique Monthly Visitors: 156,07220
How Much is my Website Worth383,034.00N/AN/AN/A94% of websites are worth less12 than crazymeds.us21
Evaluate Any Website8,148.00N/AAlexa minus 3 years0.0013Alexa Traffic Ranking: 253,83022
Desi89.com270.3888792Compete9.01296Their precision is matched only by their legibility.23
DooWebRank917,248.00N/AI hope they share whatever they’re smokingN/AThis site actually uses a random number generator! Enter google.com. Then enter it again. And again. Three different, yet equally ridiculous amounts for their value and traffic rank, right? Hmmm, who thinks Google is worth half a million dollars?24


Source is for daily visitors, and is either what they have on the page or my best guess14. You’ll notice how a lot are indicated “Alexa?” In my experience Alexa consistently lowballs the numbers by 30–50% - more if you don’t have their code everywhere - so that indicates I’m guessing they are extrapolating from that. Credibility is an entirely subjective ranking that I use in order to sort these from the most to least accurate.

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1 Sometimes we're one of the first site a new spamhole hits, so Invision's spam service isn't familiar with their IP addresses. That's about the only time they get through these days.

2 Don't hold your breath.

3 In addition to social popularity I guess buying ads on Google is another way of influencing where we show up in the search results. Even if that isn't supposed to make a difference.

4 The sad thing is: I could actually do that.

5 AKA Moonies

6 Especially DooWebRank. Their numbers change wildly every time you visit. On the same day. Or if you switch between www.domain.com and domain.com and back to www.domain.com

7 Whatever the fuck "Depth Potential" is.

8 Check out their About page. It reads like it was run through Google's translation tool. Their name is different on different pages, with the copyright notice having the only consistent one. Which is seeohunt.

9 I'd kill for that sort of traffic and revenue this joker thinks I have. If I had a serious offer for $600K, Crazymeds would have a new owner in a matter of days. Unless I was actually making over $600 a day.

10 Which just goes to show you how ludicrous Compete's numbers are.

11 Best useless statistic ever. If this is for SEO Stratego, count me in.

12 A far more accurate way to read that would be: "94% of websites are worthless." I'll leave it up to you to decide where Crazymeds fits in that 94/6 divide. This site has nothing visible except their guess about Crazymeds' value. The only reason I have them here is for this footnote. And that $400K is the most reasonable number I've seen regarding Crazymeds' current worth. So why so far now the credibility scale? Because they don't publish the data that went into their guess.

13 They write that I can make up to $16 a month with AdSense! Man, those guys must make millions. They offer great SEO tips, like link exchanges, buying links, and other things Google frowns upon.

14 If they're going to guess what my traffic is, I may as well return the favor.

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